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Bad Brain
11-28-2002, 12:43 AM
I've been quite disappointed in the genre lately, well the whole action gaming in all. The last SP game I played that was at all entertaining yet challenging was RTCWolfenstein. I enjoyed MOH but the AI was TERRIBLE and I found it too easy. I just "tried" Spearhead and I think it might even be easier and I didn't see any real improvement in AI (they aim better that’s all).

I played through about 1/2 of Quake 2 just for fun the other day and I must say I enjoyed it as much as these newer games. The latest game I tried was/is Bond 007:Nightfire. From what I can tell so far... its shit. Terrible AI and no real atmosphere.

What ever happened to making good games? Quake was super cool, Systemshock was scary, Halflife was just fucking great and even RTCWolfenstein has its fair share of good solid gaming moments.

Am I being too picky?


Bah.

Darken Rahl
11-28-2002, 12:47 AM
You might try NOLF or NOLF2.

X-Todd
11-28-2002, 12:52 AM
what is NOLF?
Night
Of the
Living
Faggots?

:)

Mikey
11-28-2002, 12:57 AM
Multiplayer is what happened to games. As online multiplayer has become more popular, game developers have started to spend less time developing good single player elements to the game since the majority of the people purchasing the game would just bypass the single player portion of the game and hop online anyway.

The single player portion is now developed to be more of a training experience for online play, so the storyline and AI have been neglected. The only place where single player still seems to be the number one priority is on consoles, and unfortunately FPS games tend to be hindered by poor controls on console systems.

Doom 3 looks promising with its great graphics and moody environments, but then again id hasn't put much effort into single player in its last few releases. So, the only advice I can give is to wait and see if things change sometime soon.

Icy Armageddon
11-28-2002, 12:59 AM
BB I am also getting burned on FPS. I love FPS but I donno....maybe I need to just wait for doom 3. IMO doom 3 will be as good as SP as HL, I hope.

DarkVVulf
11-28-2002, 01:13 AM
Quake2?
I remember becoming incredibly draught after playing it for awhile. Couldn't stand it.

I find myself wanting to play Project IGI again, I rather enjoyed stealthing around in enemy bases ala Metal Gear.

And it doesn't have multiplayer (if I remember right) so there ya go, full effort on the single player.

Icy Armageddon
11-28-2002, 01:21 AM
I have been playing master of orion II latly. Pretty fun. :up:

Bad Brain
11-28-2002, 01:23 AM
Well, what I meant about Quake2 is... it was/is just as fun as many new games (meaning the new games aren't offering much).

Doom3 looks promising not because its not gonna offer any magical new gameplay but it sure as hell looks like its gonna nail the atmosphere and moodiness right on the head.

FMU
11-28-2002, 01:24 AM
NOLF = No One Lives Forever ... Xtodd if you haven't tried it out you may want to look at this one.. it's good.

edit: by now I've realized that you're probably just fuckin' with Darken.

Bad Brain
11-28-2002, 01:25 AM
My only knock on Project IGI was the horrible AI. You could shoot a guy in the leg and he'd just stand there or look around.

CtrlAltDel
11-28-2002, 01:53 AM
the world went gay with 3d cards

everyone wastes cpu on pretty graphics and then there is none left of the ai

thats why games blow

Icy Armageddon
11-28-2002, 01:54 AM
Agreed. We need better ai and gameplay.

sinic
11-28-2002, 01:22 PM
NOLF was an amazing game ... one of the best I have ever played

I still haven't tried NOLF2, but from what I hear, it is actually better than NOLF

Exodus
11-28-2002, 02:13 PM
Halo's pretty good (Note: last person to buy an x-box on the earth)

Be even better on PC if they add 4+ player support too, got that "I'm a bad ass bitch in a hi-tech suit, don't fuck with me" feeling.

I'm telling you poundy, mmorpg for now and wait for the good games to come ;d

X-Todd
11-28-2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by FMU
NOLF = No One Lives Forever ... Xtodd if you haven't tried it out you may want to look at this one.. it's good.

edit: by now I've realized that you're probably just fuckin' with Darken.

:)

menkent
11-28-2002, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by DarkVVulf
I remember becoming incredibly draught...

huh?

anyway, nolf2 recently got a great review from <a href="http://firingsquad.gamers.com/games/nolf2review/" target=blank_>firingsquad</a>

CtrlAltDel
11-28-2002, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Icy Armageddon
Agreed. We need better ai and gameplay.

but if they do that too much, then the graphics take a hit and then everyone complains about how bad the graphics suck

its a loop thats happened ever since the 3d card came out

ninja
11-28-2002, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by CtrlAltDel
the world went gay with 3d cards

everyone wastes cpu on pretty graphics and then there is none left of the ai

thats why games blow

i've been playing SMB and SMB3 on winnes :O

CtrlAltDel
11-28-2002, 04:46 PM
owned

Snitt
11-28-2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by ninja
i've been playing SMB and SMB3 on winnes :O

I plugged in the SNES the other week, and Super Mario 3 has been vying for time with Ratchet & Clank.

Icy Armageddon
11-28-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by CtrlAltDel
but if they do that too much, then the graphics take a hit and then everyone complains about how bad the graphics suck

its a loop thats happened ever since the 3d card came out

I could care less about graphics at the moment. I have always prefered good gameplay over eye candy. But yeah I agree on that people do complain about graphics if they are sub par or even par. :nono:

Darken Rahl
11-28-2002, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by FMU
edit: by now I've realized that you're probably just fuckin' with Darken.

You mean people do that? ;)

MakesKidsKill
11-28-2002, 10:07 PM
Battlefield 1942 owns all... seriously... it owns... hard ownage... played for 6 hours straight today...

Bad Brain
11-28-2002, 11:34 PM
Maybe BF1942 would be worth it now that its been patched a few times

Icy Armageddon
11-28-2002, 11:38 PM
Sopposly the 1.2 patch is soppose to fix almost everything....finish the game.

Bad Brain
11-29-2002, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Icy Armageddon
....finish the game.

Its about time.

Bad Brain
11-29-2002, 12:13 PM
I must say that I really liked "Mafia", so not all games have been crappy lately.